Last year, I wrote about how much I love riding the train at Christmas.
As far as I’m concerned, it really is the best time of the year to be on a
train, and the only way I really care to travel around the holidays. So I was
understandably pleased to have the chance to take the train to Ottawa and back
over Christmas 2019.
The trip was really enjoyable in both directions. Since I’ve written in
quite a bit of detail about the experience on board VIA’s Ocean service in
previous reports, and this trip didn’t really deviate much from the norm, I’m
not going to give a full narration of the journey. Instead, I’m going to
provide consists and the highlights of the trip, and some commentary in the
form of captions on the photos as I go along. While in Montreal and Ottawa I
also had the chance to ride some commuter trains, including the new Ottawa LRT,
so I’ll include a few photos and commentary about that experience as well. At
the end of this report, I have an important note about impending changes for
the Ocean’s service. If you’ve been thinking about riding this train or have
and particularly enjoy the current operation, you may want to read that and
take note.
So we begin in Halifax on December 22, 2019. There were no extra trains
for the holidays this year, but the dates of operation were adjusted slightly
due to Christmas day falling on a Wednesday. In addition to that adjustment,
VIA tweaked the schedule of the Ocean on a couple of days when the adjusted
days of operation would require a same-day turnaround of the equipment in
Montreal. On those days, the preceding #15 ran on a 1-hour earlier schedule,
and that day’s #14 departed about half an hour behind schedule. As it turned
out, this would affect both of my trains.
There was a good crowd at the station in Halifax, largely boarding the
coaches. The boarding call came a bit over half an hour before our early 12pm
scheduled departure.
A sign in the station promotes the recent renovation work. Nice to see this historic station getting some attention. Now if only we could get more trains! |
The consist for this sizeable Renaissance train was as follows:
VIA 15 - December 22, 2019
6429
6406
6439
7003 Renaissance Baggage
7223 (03) Ren Coach
70230 (05) Ren Accessible Coach
7227 (04) Ren Coach
7208 (06) Ren Coach
7200 (07) Ren Coach
7312 Ren Service Car
7402 Ren Diner
7313 Ren Service Car
79501 (30) Ren Accessible Sleeper
7507 (33) Ren Sleeper
7522 (34) Ren Sleeper
7517 (35) Ren Sleeper
7518 (36) Ren Sleeper *Room 5
7520 (37) Ren Sleeper
7519 (38) Ren Sleeper
7516 (39) Ren Sleeper
7600 Ren Transition
Chateau Roberval (crew)
Assiniboine Park (40)
*Line numbers are in brackets. Note the odd coach numbering – appears
to have been thrown off due to the placement of the accessible coach, which is
always line number 05 on the Ren set in the current setup.
I found the Renaissance sleeper that I was in to be in fairly decent
shape. Aside from an issue with the table (which I hardly use anyway), the only
problem was that the shower seemed to only have very hot water – something I
have encountered before. The room was also pretty cool, but I found that quite
comfortable to sleep in once under the generous duvet.
Room 5 - the best room in a Renaissance sleeper. Forward facing, shower-equipped, and almost smack-dab in the middle of the car. Can't ask for a better ride. |
Departure was ultimately delayed due to several late arriving
passengers, some of whom needed assistance boarding, and all of whom had
checked baggage that had to be loaded. It seems the change of the departure
time may have thrown some people off! We departed at 12:18pm, but ran slow
through the cut, not making it to the switch at Fairview Jct. until 12:40.
As usual, the passenger load was reasonable, but lighter in this
direction than the corresponding run from Montreal. We had 141 in coach and 39 in the sleepers leaving Halifax, with
plenty more boarding along the way (especially at Moncton).
Looking to the tail end - note the smattering of Christmas decor. |
Starting to pull away from the Halifax station. |
Meeting a recently-arrived CN 120 just past Fairview. |
The DPU from CN 120 sits on the tail end of its train, the front half having already been pulled off. It's a busy day in Rockingham yard. |
Lunch calls were to be at 12 (delayed, but ultimately started before we
departed) and at 1:30pm.
Lunch menu - some familiar items. |
Fish chowder, to start. This was a long time dinner feature on the Ocean, and has recently been relocated to the lunch menu. It's thoroughly enjoyable in either context. |
Chicken schnitzel. A rather tasty lunch. |
The mille-feuille, which has been the lunch dessert staple for a while now. Always delightful, though a challenge to eat without making a mess! |
One interesting thing to note was that this was the first time I had been on board since VIA made the switch to no longer accepting cash on board their trains (I had made one last coach trip from Amherst to Halifax in October just before the change, and made a point to buy something from the canteen with cash one last time!). VIA now only accepts credit cards and VIA gift cards for payment on board. The little terminals are pretty nifty, accepting either tap or chip payment. I found they worked pretty well on both trips, but it seems they are integrated with the same smartphone system that VIA uses for ticket scanning, and they can occasionally be problematic. How reliably they worked seemed to depend on which crew member you spoke to, with some saying it had been very smooth and others saying they were a headache.
As we made our way, we had double stops at both Amherst and Sackville, and otherwise kept up a good pace through the afternoon.
A bit of freezing precipitation obscured the forward view from the dome for some parts of the afternoon, and into the evening. |
Views near Amherst, on a dreary afternoon. |
Vestibule views. Standard issue snow brush to the right. |
Through the afternoon, I took some photos of various interior details in the Renaissance cars. As the days of these cars are likely numbered, I thought it worth recording some of the less-often photographed interior elements.
Equipment cabinets inside the Renaissance transition car. Emergency equipment is located below, and a fire extinguisher above. The cabinet to the left houses various electrical equipment for the car. |
A large freezer in the Renaissance transition car. Additional supplies for the diner and service cars can be stored here. |
Located across from the small service area at the front of a Ren sleeper, each car has a fire extinguisher and an emergency power shutoff. |
A Canadian railroading essential - the snow brush. While the vestibules themselves are well sealed, the exterior steps still get clogged up with snow in the winter. |
We would ultimately depart Moncton at 4:57pm, further delayed due to lots of coach passengers and baggage boarding at that stop.
Paused at Moncton, our three locomotives are refuelled for the journey onwards. |
Dinner calls were at 5, 6:30 and 8 pm.
Renaissance dining car, set for dinner. There were different little festive centerpieces on each table. |
Dinner menu. |
Caprese salad appetizer. Quite tasty, though I found it to be a bit much as a starter. Could also do with a bit less of the balsamic glaze! |
We were through Rogersville at 6:04pm with no stop, and would
eventually arrive at Campbellton at 10:19pm. I decided to step out for some
fresh (and very cold!) air before bed, and realized that the crew were having
issues with deploying the steps on that side of the train. Some had frozen
(Campbellton is the first left-side stop after Truro, so plenty of time for ice
to build up), and there was also ice on the platform that interfered with their
operation. We departed there at 10:38pm, and I headed off to bed shortly
thereafter.
By the morning we had not only made up time, but were running ahead of
even our earlier schedule. We were at Drummondville by 7:08am (departed 7:16),
St-Hyacinthe at 7:42, and St-Lambert at 8:15. Despite even having to use the
diversion on the Victoria Bridge, we were still in to Montreal Central Station
by 8:38am, nearly half an hour ahead of our already early scheduled arrival.
Arriving at that hour had me reminiscing about my earlier days of riding this
train over a decade ago, when the Montreal arrival was scheduled for closer to
8am.
It would be a bright and sunny day, but it was still dull and overcast as I made my way to breakfast in Drummondville. |
Breakfast options. |
Golden breakfast bread, and plenty of coffee. A rather nice way to start the day. |
Brightening up as we make our fast final run in toward Montreal. |
As we swing left onto the diversion, a CN freight (which had been waiting for us to make our stop and clear the station) starts up. |
Swinging around on the diversion. |
Coming off the Victoria bridge, a lone F40 is emerging from VIA's Montreal Maintenance Centre. It would soon make its way over to the station as well. |
Final approach into Central Station, with exo commuter trains (an EMU on the left and a string of ALP45DP-hauled multilevels on the right) await assignment. |
Leaving Train 15 on track 13, down underneath the majestic Central station. Note the longer gap fillers required for the narrow Renaissance cars. |
A Corridor train waits on an adjacent track in the bowels of Central Station. |
A group of carolers make for a very warm welcome to Montreal. |
While in Montreal, I decided to make a very quick exo (formerly AMT)
commuter train ride. The Mount Royal tunnel is due to be converted to the new
automated light rail “REM” service, and commuter service through the tunnel
will end in a few months’ time. This seemed like it could be my last chance to
ride through it as-is, so I figured I could make a quick out-and-back trip to
Canora station using a Deux-Montagnes line train out, and a Mascouche line
train back in, with about 10min between them. As it turned out, both were running with ALP45DP-hauled
multi-level trains. It was my first time on this equipment, and I was quite
impressed with the comfort of the ride.
Inside a Bombardier multi-level coach. The seating is very comfortable and spacious for a commuter run. |
The accessible seating area, and the vestibule with low level doors straight ahead. |
Leaving the train at Canora, the pair of now exo-branded ALP45DPs accelerate the impressively long train away from the station. |
The temporary relocated Canora station, reduced to a single track. Note the overhead electric wires above the new temporary platform. Soon all of this will be closed for construction of the REM. |
My return train arrives, a much shorter 3-car train from the Mascouche line. |
I made my way to the cab car, where the end door was briefly open. Just after snapping this shot it was closed, and I watched through the middle window as we headed for the tunnel. |
A brief bit of daylight view as we head back to the darkness of the Mount Royal tunnel. |
After that quick ride I went to run some errands in downtown Montreal,
and also wandered around the old Windsor Station. While I’d been around that
area plenty of times before, I hadn’t actually ventured into the historic
station. It’s fascinating to stand there and imagine what it would have been
like in its CP-run glory days, as passengers milled about and boarded trains
heading all across the country.
Montreal. What more can I say? |
Back at the current-day Central station, I picked up my bags (as usual,
I used the checkroom service at Central station to leave my carry-ons while I
wandered around) and boarded train 35 for Ottawa.
VIA 35 – Dec. 23, 2019
6401
3468 (01) LRC Business Class *
3335 (03) LRC Economy Class
3370 (04) LRC Economy Class
Both of the coaches on this train were in the old LRC scheme outside,
but had been refreshed inside with the new style seating and the 50/50
forward/back configuration. Having arrived from Quebec City, #35 has to back
out of the station to reverse directions before heading onwards. We departed a
few minutes behind schedule at 12:04pm.
I was in Business class, which is my preference on #35. If booked in
advance, the price differential is usually pretty reasonable, and the departure
time means that the train is running right over lunch time. Business class has
its greatest value, in my opinion, when the train is running through a normal
meal period. Lunch was served by Coteau, with service starting only from the
front of the car. By the time they got to me nearer the back of the car, one of
the lunch options was gone. The cold plate, which I chose, was perfectly
enjoyable. The ride was pretty smooth, and we ultimately made up time to arrive
slightly early at 2:10pm.
A brew from Beau's, one of the local craft options available on VIA's corridor trains. |
Business class lunch. |
Arriving at the station, there was some confusion about where checked
baggage would be arriving. The normal baggage area is being renovated at the
moment, and it’s covered over with no indication as to where alternative
service will be provided. An employee finally informed us that the cart would
just be driving around to the front entrance, and a short while later it
arrived.
There are also major renovations ongoing to to Business lounge in the station, so it is currently closed and a temporary lounge is in place near the Ministry of Coffee. I didn't have a chance to see inside, as I wasn't in Business class on my return.
Winter danger! There's something about the graphic design of these signs that I really enjoy. |
With all bags in hand, I headed off to try my luck with the new O-Train
Confederation Line. Since its much-delayed launch in September 2019, the new
LRT line has been plagued with problems. Some were forseen by observers well
before the system launched, and others have unexpectedly cropped up as the
trains got running. I’m not going to delve into that in any great detail here,
except to acknowledge that there is clearly a lot of work left to be done to
get the system running properly.
Hopefully those problems can get sorted out before long, because when it does run as intended, the LRT is actually a pretty fantastic
addition to the Ottawa transit landscape. I have previously taken a bus from
the train station to my parent’s home near Tunney’s Pasture, and the difference
with riding the LRT was astounding. It was far more spacious and comfortable,
and the ride through the tunnel downtown was immensely faster than the old slow
bus slog through downtown.
Getting to the LRT from the VIA station was quite straightforward. The
signage is pretty good, and while you do have to walk outside, it’s not too far
to go. I found the ticket purchasing interface to be really intuitive and quick
to use, the elevator was spacious and quick (ideal with a large bag), and while
a train had just departed as I bought my ticket, the next train arrived just a
few minutes after I got to the platform. Getting off at Tunney’s Pasture, I had
only a short walk to finish my journey.
Leaving the station, the O-train Tremblay station is a short walk, not more than heading to either of the parking lots. |
The ticket machines are intuitive, and quick and easy to use. You can purchase single fares or longer passes. The machine prints a ticket-like card with a QR code. |
A Toronto-bound VIA train departs in the background, looking towards the downtown direction on the line. |
Over the next few days I would head out to ride the whole Confederation
Line from end to end, as well as the original diesel Trillium line
(impressively, it is possible to do both in their entirety on a single fare).
Given that the Trillium Line will close this spring for rebuilding and expansion
as part of the next stage of the system construction, I figured it was worth
getting in a last ride.
Forward view through the cab, as we meet an oncoming train. The system is fully double tracked, with right-hand running as the norm. |
Between trains at Blair. Every station has these barriers. |
As we depart the station, we have to cross over to get back to our normal right-hand position. An oncoming train is approaching, and waits for us to clear the way. |
Above ground at Parliament, quite the trek above the station itself. A series of escalators and stairs, as well as an elevator option, provide access down to the tracks themselves. |
Parliament station, looking west through the tunnel. |
Our train arrives. |
End of the line, for now...the next phase of the diesel Trillium line will continue south along this former CP right of way, adding several new stations to the line. |
Back at Bayview, at the Confederation line level. |
On December 27th, I headed out for my return journey. This
time I had a ride to the station, and boarded VIA 28 – this is the later
connection to the Ocean, and one I hadn’t tried before, usually opting for the
earlier #26. This is clearly an extremely popular train, running a solid 6 car
LRC consist with two in-service Business class cars and an impressive crowd
boarding. I was very excited to see that I would finally get to make use of the
high platform adjacent to the station. It is extremely well designed, and made
the boarding experience the easiest it has ever been. Interestingly, a 6-car
train is the maximum that can just squeeze onto that platform.
VIA 28 – Dec. 27, 2019
6404
3451 (01) LRC Business Class
3477 (91) LRC Business Class
3322 (03) LRC Economy
3318 (04) LRC Economy
3302 (05) LRC Economy
3329 (06) LRC Economy *12A
Train 28 at the new high level platform. Wide stairs and ramps in multiple directions make the platform very easy to access, no matter where in the train you're headed. |
Convenient boarding. Eventually, more platforms at Ottawa are planned for conversion to high level, which will improve accessibility for all train departures and arrivals. |
I noted that checked baggage (only available if connecting to the
Ocean) was loaded into Car 91. All LRC cars had the new interiors, though
externally were in a mix of schemes. I was in Economy class this time, as I
find Business class on the late afternoon departure much harder to justify,
unless the price differential is really good. We departed on time with a good
full train, and after a delay at Coteau waiting for a signal, we would
ultimately be 10 minutes late arriving in Montreal. During our stop at Dorval,
I noticed that the VIA shuttle to the airport is actually a small white Blue
Bird bus with large VIA logos on both sides and the rear.
Once in Montreal, sleeper check-in had begun – so I checked in, then
relaxed for a while in the lounge before boarding.
On the way back, our train was the hodge-podge mix of HEP and
Renaissance equipment, necessitated by the dwindling number of available
Renaissance cars. I took advantage of this to book a roomette in one of the
Chateau sleepers. Originally opting for a roomette 8, I was surprised when I
boarded to find that my reservation had been changed to 7 in the same car. Once
on board, I realized why – there had been an issue with the windowblind in that
8, and it had been removed entirely. Not conducive for sleep! I happily
switched over to #7 instead.
VIA 14 – Dec. 27, 2019
6443
6433
6426
8619 HEP baggage
8123 (02?) HEP1 Coach
8140 (04) HEP1 Coach
8137 (05) HEP1 Coach
8138 (04?) HEP1 Coach
7601 Renaissance Transition
70217 (07) Ren Accessible Coach
7309 Ren Service Car
7401 Ren Diner
7314 Ren Service Car
79515 (30) Ren Accessible Sleeper
7512 (31) Ren Sleeper
7602 Ren Transition
Chateau Brulé (35)
Chateau Bienville (36)
*Roomette 7
Chateau Laval (38)
Chateau Marquette (37)
Chateau Rigaud (39
Revelstoke Park (40)
*Note the really weird line numbering on this train. Not sure if the
coach numbers are accurate (I wrote down what was in the external number displays, but that
might not have been changed). The sleeper numbers had to do with how
the train was crewed, and the fact that one sleeper was emptying entirely at
Moncton (where one of the employees would also end his trip).
We boarded around 7pm, with departure at 7:30 – as I noted at the start
of this report, this was one of the days with the same-day equipment
turnaround, so our entire schedule was shifted half an hour later than usual.
First dinner call was on departure, and the second was at 9:30.
Dinner menu. As you can see from the green meal reservation ticket to the top left, this was the 7:30pm dinner call. |
Salad appetizer, with smoked salmon, shaved fennel, oranges and mixed greens. A very nice starter. |
Coconut cranberry chicken. I had tried this before and really enjoyed it, and it didn't disappoint on its repeat appearance. |
The evening was relaxing, and I headed to bed after departing Ste-Foy
and leaving Joffre Yard. The ride was comfortable, and I slept very well in my
roomette.
A Park comparison - this is the more recently refurbished interior of Revelstoke Park. Compare this to the photos of Assiniboine Park above, and you can see this is in much sharper condition. |
Looking to the dome stairs in Revelstoke Park. |
Mural lounge in Revelstoke Park, again, looking clean and classy. |
The bar area. Interestingly, I find the splash of brown on the counter facade makes this look like an interior from the 1970s. |
By the next morning, we were only a few minutes behind schedule. I
wandered down for breakfast before the last call, and ended up seated with
someone I had met on the train and dined with several years earlier. It’s a
small world, sometimes…
The only odd thing I noted during out morning run was that we made a
stop by the switch just across the second Miramichi river bridge. We had
stopped there in the other direction as well – I wonder if there is a new
requirement for the crews to stop and verify that the switch has been set
properly.
Renaissance diner, set for breakfast. |
Breakfast menu. |
I opted for the havarti and leek omelette. The omelette itself was just okay, but the accompaniments were all quite good. |
By Moncton we were making good time. During our stop, we had a meet with a short local train returning to Gordon Yard. Shortly after that cleared, we backed out to the main (standard practice at Moncton, to allow the use of the CTC controlled switch at the west end of the station) and continued onwards.
VIA 14 at Moncton, looking at the rear stainless steel section. |
Looking ahead to the mixed portion of the train, with the Renaissance block and another stainless block up front. |
Park car reflections. I can never pass up this shot. |
A long-hood running CN 4112 leads a short local train past VIA 14 during its Moncton station stop. |
When I said short train, I meant it. The little GP9 is plenty of power for this two car wonder. |
Lunch calls were at 12 and 2pm. I went for the second one, after departure from Moncton.
Lunch menu. |
The fish chowder, once again. Something that I'm glad is a staple on the menu. |
Views on the Tantramar marshes. The dark paint inside Revelstoke's refurbished dome makes for a nicer frame than the old grey interiors. |
Afternoon mood...with the light falling, the wintery world rolling by and the smooth rocking of the train, it's nice to just sit in your room and relax. An afternoon snooze is a likely possibility... |
All in all, the return trip was smooth and enjoyable. The only minor
issue was that the shower in Chateau Bienville, in complete contrast with my
Renaissance room on the way down, had no hot
water. I could have made my way to a different car to try my luck elsewhere,
but by the time I realized the issue I decided to just brave the cold. That
sure woke me up!
Riding the mixed set was once again an interesting experience. Having
the HEP sleepers is definitely enjoyable, particularly for the wider range of accommodation options, and I also genuinely like continuing
to have the Renaissance diner in the mix. The 2-person tables are nice, and the
catered meal service works much more smoothly in these diners than it does in
the HEP diners (or Skylines, as I experienced last spring). When this train
eventually reverts to all-HEP equipment, as planned, I am curious if they will
return to on board cooking, or try to maintain the catered arrangement.
VIA 14 under the platform lights at Halifax, as passengers make the long chilly walk to the station. |
The Ocean’s future: changes are
coming
On a closing note, and as I think ahead to my next trip, I should note
that major changes are likely coming to the Ocean this fall. As of November 1,
2020, VIA will no longer have access to the loop track that they use to turn
their trains in Halifax. PSA Halifax, formerly Halterm, has decided that they
can no longer spare the room occupied by the loop track as the port continues
to expand. Despite being on Crown land, PSA operates the infrastructure and has
the ability to tell VIA if they can or can’t use the track. They initially gave
notice to VIA that they would lose access as of November 1st last
year. Transport Canada mediated negotiations resulted in an extension to
November of 2020, but it now seems that this deadline is real, final, and
non-negotiable.
With the loop unavailable, VIA has nowhere else to turn a train. The
nearest useable wye is in Truro, more than 60 miles away. The former wye at
Windsor Jct., which was a much closer option and
the former backup for when the loop was unavailable, has been removed. Short of
finding somewhere to build a new wye or reinstalling the one at Windsor Jct.
(which would require cooperation from CN and significant funding), VIA will not
be able to turn the Ocean around.
So what does that mean for the Ocean? Details are still murky, but it
appears that VIA will be moving to a new train arrangement that will allow them
to run it as a bidirectional train. In this setup, the locomotives would run
back to back, and after arrival in Halifax, the train would be pulled out of
the station, and a nearby runaround would be used to move the locomotives to
the other end. The consist itself would run in reverse for its return trip.
There remain a lot of unknowns about the equipment setup. VIA’s
corporate plans have indicated that the Renaissance equipment would need to be
withdrawn, as the coaches can’t operate in both directions (and the equipment
is generally nearing the end of its life). But it is also possible that they
could renovate some of those cars to have 50/50 forward/backwards seating. The
sleepers, service cars and dining cars should be able to operate in either
direction, as they were designed to run that way from the start. Keeping at
least some Rens in operation for a while longer would help with capacity
constraints, and would also ensure that VIA maintains accessible coach and
sleeper accommodations on the Ocean. So we may well see a similar mix of
equipment as we currently have, but what that will look like is a real question.
The one near certainty in this bidirectional operating model is that
the classic Park Cars, the tail-end dome/lounge/sleepers, will likely disappear
from the train. Their curved tail end means that they can’t be run mid-train,
and poses challenges for running them directly behind the power (in all
likelihood, a bidirectional set would have baggage cars at both ends, as
baggage service is handled by one of the engineers at most station stops en
route). A modified Skyline could presumably help fill in this gap, but the Park
is an iconic car whose loss will be acutely felt. It also removes the large
sleeper rooms that VIA currently sells at a premium, and which are consistently
popular.
It's likely that we’ll start to hear details about VIA’s plans for the
fall over the coming months. In any case, I’ll offer the advice that is always
so wise to heed, given the long history of disappearing and changing passenger
trains in this country – if you want to ride the Ocean as it currently exists,
don’t delay – get out and do it. All being well, we will still have a
full-service long distance train between Halifax and Montreal after November 1,
2020; but it’s very likely it won’t look the same, and some of its iconic charm
may be gone forever. I know I’ll be trying to ride as much as I can before that date…
Great trip report, Tim! It'll be sad to see the Park car go. Every train needs a punctuation mark like that.
ReplyDeleteI can't see the wye being put back in at Windsor Junction.
I could see the Ren cars being kept in service. Since they have service cars at each end already, there's no problem with locomotives coupling up on either end.
Thanks Steve! Definitely agreed re: the Park car, and likely about the Windsor Jct. wye as well.
DeleteYou're right that they could use the existing Ren set (and both sets, to be honest) with the Park removed - maybe add a Skyline and a HEP baggage car at the one end instead. The real question about the Rens is twofold: a) how much of that equipment can they continue to keep in service? and b) how many coaches are they willing to modify to a bidirectional setup? The seats in the Ren coaches can't be turned at end points, so for this new operation one would presume they'd want to go to a setup with half the seats reversed. Doing that would require pretty extensive modification, as the seats in those cars are that weird high pedestal-mounted design, rather than a simple floor-mount. Would they be willing to re-do enough coaches to continue the current setup, or instead look at going to two mixed consists that could use only a single accessible Ren coach on each train? Suppose we'll have to wait and see.
Thanks, Tim, for the detailed report and the excellent photos. My group of friends in the Toronto area usually take two trips a year to Halifax. The loss of the Park car and the Ren. sleepers will result in a lot fewer trips. In fact I will need a really good reason to ride the Ocean.
ReplyDeleteI see no reason to eliminate the Park car. The Ocean ex-Halifax can be run in reverse formation to Truro where it can be run through the "Y" and the locomotives put back on the front. I suggested this to then CEO "YDS" (who encouraged his passengers to keep in touch by e-mail). He forwarded my comment to an operations man. The reply was non-committal.
I see on Reservia that VIA is still selling the Park car rooms as far ahead as sales are available: 22 Jan. 2021. Also, I note the consists are all Ren. after 18 October ex-Halifax. From my experience none of this means anything, but it is interesting.
Thanks David. I'm sure you won't be the only ones losing interest in this train if the Park car is gone, and as much as I love the HEP sleepers, I'm sure further loss of the Ren sleepers will be a deterrent to some others as well.
DeleteI've heard a few people bring up the possibility of turning at Truro, and while it seems like a theoretically workable idea, I'm not sure how operationally feasible it would be. Adding a bit of extra time in the schedule wouldn't seem like a deal-breaker, given how long the schedule already is, but the moves required would need cooperation from CN for access to the wye and yard space to run around, etc. They've been far from cooperative with VIA lately (and anyone else really, looking at the death of Halifax's commuter rail attempts as a recent example), so they may not let that happen.
I wouldn't trust that information in Reservia at this point. Given the current situation, I can't see a return to all-Ren operation even if nothing changed with the turning situation. My guess is that they aren't bothering to change anything in the reservations system for around that time until they have settled on what their operations will look like, and the exact date that they'll make whatever changes they need to. I'd guess it may still be a few months until we see this.
Thanks Tim, I always enjoy reading your trip reports. I'm about to use google earth to look up Windsor Jct.... I'm curious about the old wye there.
ReplyDeleteThanks Dave, glad you enjoyed it. The wye at Windsor Jct. is pretty easy to spot, as it was still in service up until after the Windsor and Hantsport ceased operation around 2010 or so. Not sure exactly when the connection was removed. The real estate is certainly still there, but I suspect it would be a rather complicated business to get it reinstalled.
DeleteThanks for sharing your trip report, Tim. Excellent as usual, and makes me hungry to boot! In June, I always had the Transcontinental breakfast - toast so good! I noted the VIA train departing had an ex-CP coach on what looked like the tail end. I heard the crew likes them for the larger baggage storage section. Also neat to see Business Class 3476, only wrapped 'future' car there.
ReplyDeleteThe changes coming to the Ocean are sobering and perplexing.
Eric
Hi Tim, in one of your earlier Ocean trip reports (can't recall which one now) you mentioned that when this train has Ren cars, it travels with a 'train rider'. Is that a Renaissance ride along 'mechanic' in case problems develop?
ReplyDeleteHey Mike, sorry for the long delay in replying - yes, the train rider is a carman from Montreal who's on board to deal with any issues that may crop up, a result of the frequent issues with the Ren equipment. Over the last few years, I believe there's been one on every trip, whether Ren, HEP, or mixed consists.
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